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Kendel · Jun 11, 2009, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

Then the fight will be pretty much over by the time you get them up.
Spirits are reasonable usuable when you have long battles in the same location, but that's pretty rare.

Er... you summon them before a fight, or still have them alive from the last fight.

You are aware of the Kurzick/Luxon skill Summon Spirits right? And i was wrong about the dps, assuming 13 Channeling 16 Communing vs a Painful Bonded with Signet of Ghostly Might up foe you get 42 + 18 from Pain, 22 + 18 from Bloodsong (or 20 + 18 from a max Vampirism), 31 + 18 from Shadowsong and 62 + 18 from Anguish on top of a 33% IAS speed boost. So thats a total of 229 damage every attack (i don't remember the attack rate of spirits). Thats some pretty good single target dps.

Xenomortis · Jun 11, 2009, 03:59 PM // 15:59

Bloodsong attacks once every 1.75 seconds, Vampirism every 2.15 and every other attacks once every 2 seconds.

13 Channeling, 16 Communing.
Painful Bond is +18. SoGM is +11.

Bloodsong: 22+18 a hit. Under all buffs with PB - 34 DPS
Shadowsong: 21+11+18 = 50. - 37.3 DPS
Pain: 32+11+18 = 61 - 45.5 DPS
Anguish: 2x(11+21) +18 = 82 - 61.2 DPS

That isn't bad. What it isn't is good. You could have up to 178 DPS on a single target or around 50 DPS on several targets, which is much less useful.
However, spirits are extremely fragile and will quickly die if they come under any form of attack. You do not provide the protection a MM does and your energy gets strained by summong spirits (which you will need to do).

niek2004 · Jun 11, 2009, 05:09 PM // 17:09

lol arguing spirits are good.

Back then · Jun 11, 2009, 06:47 PM // 18:47

has there been word on whether there is going to be a skill update this week or even at all this month

Hi I'm Regem · Jun 11, 2009, 06:53 PM // 18:53

There probably won't be a skill update this month, but i think they should slightly hit all these hexes.

weaken-, -4 10 damage.
linger i guess stay the same but i would have rather them kept it at 33% but made it adjacent.
VoR and Backfire and Empathy need some kind of rework, those have to be the gayest skills in the game.
mind blast could have something done to it, i don't think distortion is a problem. If anything they can make it 6 second recharge to increase your window of opportunity.
I really don't like faint, it screws up everything. It shouldn't be half as fast. maybe 25% slower or 33%.
The biggest skill that needs nerfed is ether prism, that skill is retarded.

I am tired of seeing everyone run hexes and fire eles, its such a joke.

English Warrior · Jun 11, 2009, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Personally i think there will be a good skill balance later on tonight,
I think Hexes need another nerf and Fire Eles need a big nerf.
fixed.

Renegade26 · Jun 11, 2009, 07:14 PM // 19:14

Do we know its coming this day?

Xsiriss · Jun 11, 2009, 07:23 PM // 19:23

Why did my post get deleted? I was giving a valid opinion and in no way trolling. modrage much?

I'l say it again, need more buffs not nerfs otherwise skills will remained untouched and it'l be the last meta standing. PvE suffers indirectly from these skills changes too which is why people stick to things like cryway or back in the ursan days.

Lishy · Jun 11, 2009, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Originally Posted by English Warrior

Fire Eles need a big nerf.

Did I just see someone say Fire Eles needed a nerf, the line as a whole, and not just mind blast?

WTB Fire buff in PvE

English Warrior · Jun 11, 2009, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Did I just see someone say Fire Eles needed a nerf, the line as a whole, and not just mind blast?

WTB Fire buff in PvE

I was meaning it for the fire builds used in GvG.
and Fire buff in PvE? Lol k
PvE needs to be easier am i rite?

Inde · Jun 11, 2009, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by Xsiriss

Why did my post get deleted? I was giving a valid opinion and in no way trolling. modrage much?

I'l say it again, need more buffs not nerfs otherwise skills will remained untouched and it'l be the last meta standing. PvE suffers indirectly from these skills changes too which is why people stick to things like cryway or back in the ursan days.

Xsiriss,

Ya gotta keep you threads straight man. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...98#post4681298 You posted in the PvP Skill Discussion thread.

UnChosen · Jun 11, 2009, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by English Warrior

Personally i think there will be a good skill balance later on tonight,
I think Hexes need another nerf and Fire Eles need a big nerf.
fixed.

Wut...a line of skills that do less than 50dmg per spells, then scatter lvl 30 monsters doing 200dmg per hit into squishies and causing team wipes need a nerf?

English Warrior · Jun 11, 2009, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by UnChosen

Wut...a line of skills that do less than 50dmg per spells, then scatter lvl 30 monsters doing 200dmg per hit into squishies and causing team wipes need a nerf?

Please refer to my post where i say that i meant it for GvG, please Lrn2read.

lord of all tyria · Jun 11, 2009, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by reaper with no name

Also, dervs suck with scythes.

Ahahahahahaha

Arkantos · Jun 11, 2009, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by UnChosen

Wut...a line of skills that do less than 50dmg per spells, then scatter lvl 30 monsters doing 200dmg per hit into squishies and causing team wipes need a nerf?

Unless they say it's for PvE, most of the time when talking about skill updates it's regarding PvP.

Ebony Shadowheart · Jun 11, 2009, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by reaper with no name

Also, dervs suck with scythes.

Wait......what?

Ok I don't think I paid attention to 90% of that post, but that....makes me go 'huh? wtf game are you playing?!'

A dervish can consistently kick the butt of any squishy (or sin) easily (usually) considering with a scythe and a decent build they do as much damage as a fricking fire or air ele. 100+ damage on almost every attack. Unless you happen to have a monk standing by babysitting you, that's gonna kill ya in just a few hits.

Back on the original topic; I don't have any predictions for the skill balance.

I think I would like to see a change to RoJ only because in JQ, you should not be able to cap a mine in a single cast of a single skill, and ffs every class is using it! Remove the burning until the very end like searing heat, or make it scatter, or something. I'm tired of interrupting the same builds all the time. Change is good, stagnation is boring.

Beyond that I have no wish list. Throw your changes at me Anet. I shall enjoy the challenge of remaking builds and trying new things.

English Warrior · Jun 11, 2009, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Unless they say it's for PvE, most of the time when talking about skill updates it's regarding PvP.

Im shocked people want fire buffed in PvE, i lol'd.

Hi I'm Regem · Jun 11, 2009, 08:27 PM // 20:27

im curious as to how RoJ is overpowered. Only heroway uses it and its not like that is hard to beat.

ele pl · Jun 11, 2009, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Fire is still a joke in HM, but it is viable for Normal Mode. Me says: nerf elemental mob armour.

Ebony Shadowheart · Jun 11, 2009, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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Originally Posted by Hi I'm Regem

im curious as to how RoJ is overpowered. Only heroway uses it and its not like that is hard to beat.

It's not that it's hard to beat. It's just annoying, and quite frankly it's getting boring since everyone is using that skill.

Besides, it's an AoE, it should cause scatter like the rest of them.